And The Good News Is…Genocide Is Okay, As Long As It’s Been Divinely Rubber-Stamped?

religiouswarsI’m sure we’ve all heard of the Good News Club – those purveyors of putrid purloined mythology. It’s enough to gag the more rational among us.

This week’s gem is about…advocating genocide

The Good News Club, an after-school club sponsored by a group called the Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF), is offering bible lessons to public school children that include the biblical story of God telling Saul to kill the godless Amalekites.

In the bible, 1 Samuel (15:3) says: “Now go, attack the Amalekites, and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

So it’s not enough to wipe out everyone down to the last infant, but their livestock is also under suspicion of…what? ‘Godlessness?’.

However, some people are concerned that this story will teach genocide to children, as various faiths have tried to use it to justify violent acts, reports the U.K. Guardian.

Insert ‘Abramanic’ in between ‘various’ and ‘faiths’. Oh, but wait: we can’t offend the little weirdoes, can we?

On their web site, the CEF says: “As with all CEF ministries, the purpose of Good News Club is to evangelize boys and girls with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and establish (disciple) them in the Word of God and in a local church for Christian living.”

Polluting their brains, you mean.

There over 3,000 clubs in public schools, since a 2001 Supreme Court ruling, which said that the Good News Clubs can meet in public schools in the United States after school hours on the same terms as other community groups. The kids are not required to go to the Good News Clubs and need parental permission to attend.

One can only hope that decent intelligent parents will say ‘no’.

Beyond the biblical teaching, are follow up questions that disturb critics.

‘Beyond the biblical teaching’? This is the problem with accommodating these throwbacks: the bible is a load of shit, plain and simple.

The CEF instruction manual reportedly states: “The Amalekites had heard about Israel’s true and living God many years before, but they refused to believe in him. The Amalekites refused to believe in God and God had promised punishment.”

Translation: the head priests made some shit up, and stoked up the rabble to go after the malcontents. The Amalekites were Semitic, after all.

“If you are asked to do something, how much of it do you need to do before you can say, ‘I did it!’? If only Saul had been willing to seek God for strength to obey!”

Translation: if only old Saul had been a teeny weeny more psychotic!

A review question in the text adds: “How did King Saul only partly obey God when he attacked the Amalekites? [He did not completely destroy as God had commanded, he kept the king and some of the animals alive.]“

This is one of those items that I find truly frightening about religious people. Many many years ago (when I was studying the bible, and was giving some thought to actually ‘converting, another long story in and of itself), I started having some serious ethical doubts about the ‘holy’ book, specifically about the slaughter of the Canaanites. So I called my BAC buddy, and asked him. “Oh,” he tossed off casually, “that’s easy. The Canaanites were people of loose morality – they had too much sex with complete strangers.” (That’s not verbatim, loose paraphrase, but close enough.) I got off the phone, thought about it, and recoiled inwardly in horror. Because it’s a lousy excuse.

In the case of the Amalekites, the Talmud/Torah talks about this tribe constantly attacking and assaulting the Israelites on a regular basis. So this ‘hey gawd told us to’ is just a cover for exterminating the bad guys.

If they really were, that is. Historical analysis and comparisons between the facts and the fables show that the Talmud is a load of shit. Almost everything in it is wrong. It’s a chronicle of a bunch of barbarians patting themselves on their collective backs and making up a lot of fish stories.

Or to put it in context: it’s all mishegas.

Till the next post, then.

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7 Responses to And The Good News Is…Genocide Is Okay, As Long As It’s Been Divinely Rubber-Stamped?

  1. ChuckA says:

    Very “NICE”, KA!

    OK…Pardon me, if I rant on a bit…?
    Yeah…
    my typical (staying right here in my questionably clean, but very comfortable, underwear?)…”Sunday go to Rant”?

    Where, indeed, does one start, or end, in the criticism of the Bible’s insanity? Simply open it…poke your finger on absolutely ANY fucking passage…and “be afraid!…be VERY afraid” of the absolute insane nonsense that will baffle and defy any rational, critical…sane…analysis.
    IOW…it’s all total, straight out of some unknown fucktard’s ass…nonsense!
    Jumping to (& stomping on?) the “New Testicle”…my mind almost automatically reverts to the, IMO arguably un-top-able, most outrageous, of all totally vicious and insane doctrines that exists in both the NT AND, of course, the also ridiculously copycat-like Koran (and “Book of Morons”), is that mostly unrecognized child abusive doctrine of…you probably guessed it…
    ETERNAL HELL!
    [Correction: Actually, it's the worst, most vile doctrine contained in ANY Ancient so-called "Sacred Scriptures"!!!]

    Some of you may have caught the story in today’s News (Sun. 6/10/12) about the step-father, caught on a neighbor’s video, ‘whooping’ his step-son’s ass over missing catching a ball, no less!
    [The kid, reportedly, has "ADHD" (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder...erm..."Oh...THANK you, Jesus!"?)]
    Which, bad enough, is given easy & quick News attention by almost every Media outlet as being an obviously outrageous bit of parental conduct “right here in the good ole USA”. Like many of you, what probably comes to mind might be a particular whooping you got as a kid from a parent (especially if it was very rare?), that you simply cannot forget. I have two, in particular; one from each parent.
    OK, that said, my point in all this is that almost noone, except perhaps some of us atheists, ever point out the most common, absolutely egregious, totally overlooked form of demonstrable MENTAL child abuse, is that pernicious, mind-bogglingly EVIL, insidious doctrine.
    As I’ve said many times, I personally know VERY few people who’ve managed to free themselves from its strangle hold on the lifetime slavishly captive mind!
    Here’s (albeit AGAIN!) a link to a favorite, IMO excellent, article on that ultra-nasty, Universally enslaving, introduced to the whole World by “Gentle (fucking) Jesus, meek and mild”…INCREDIBLY HORRIFIC…ABSOLUTELY MADE-UP (by totally vicious & insane asshole priests?) …EVERYONE FUCKING & LIFETIME ENSLAVING…
    COSMICALLY CROTCH-BUSTING BULLSHIT! :shock: :

    http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/infinitepunishment.html

  2. ChuckA says:

    And…just as a rather comical reminder; an “oldie, but definite goodie” Penn & Teller’s take on all the ‘Babblical’ stupidity:

  3. Again there is no rationality whatsoever here, nor respect. This is militant atheism as its finest. Unfortunately, your own moderates reject your way of handling the religious and religion.

    Maybe I can better clarify through an older saying that you may find enlightening if you’ll stop long enough to really think about it:

    “You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

    This is pure common sense.
    Rational and reasonable; thus it may be difficult to really wrap one’s mind around.
    Try.

  4. Sue Blue says:

    Okay, accuse me of a Godwin here – but does anyone else think of Hitler Youth when hearing about this so-called “Good News Club”? I mean, passing out cookies and Kool-Aid with a smile while telling kids about all the “bad” people who had to die because God said so (but Jesus loves you! God is love!!) is sort of like rounding up German kids and telling them how wonderful the Aryan race is (kill those dirty Jews!), how great the Fuhrer is (and he wants you to kill those dirty Jews!) and what wonderful things are in store for Germany under the Third Reich (when all the dirty Jews are dead – kill them now!). “It’s okay, kiddies – they weren’t like you, so don’t be sad they had to die. They were so bad even their animals were bad and had to be killed. When God says someone’s got to die, then you’d better jump up and kill them…or God might just decide YOU need to die! But remember, kiddies – God loves you!”
    And fuck you, Warrioress – Cynical fearmongers infiltrating our public schools and trying to teach my kids that hatred, bigotry and genocide are A-okay as long as it’s done in the name of some god do not deserve ANY respect or niceness. Rationality and reason? These are not qualities of Christians, not respected by Christians, and not likely to have any effect on them, if recent events are any example. I’m fucking sick and tired of this bogus trope that stupid and dangerous beliefs somehow deserve respect. They don’t. And last time I checked, “militant” atheists were not shooting doctors, blowing anyone or anything up, flying planes into buildings, burning “witches”, telling kids they’re going to burn in hell forever, or going on talk radio to say that certain groups of people should be rounded up, fenced in, deported, disenfranchised, or killed. It would be a far “nicer” world if religious people actualiy practiced rationality, reason, respect, and common sense – but then they wouldn’t be religious, would they?

  5. KA says:

    Again there is no rationality whatsoever here, nor respect.

    So…believing in the supernatural is rational? & again, respect is earned.

    This is militant atheism as its finest.

    Unfortunately, your own moderates reject your way of handling the religious and religion.

    Those being?

    Maybe I can better clarify through an older saying that you may find enlightening if you’ll stop long enough to really think about it:

    Between the 2 of us, you’ve proven who thinks more. & it sure ain’t you.

    “You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

    I’ve spent years dealing w/religious crazies online – & all you get w/that approach, is ruined honey.

    This is pure common sense.

    Thanks Dear Abby – gee whiz, I’m shore gonna take that advice, hyuk!

    Rational and reasonable; thus it may be difficult to really wrap one’s mind around.

    Since you have absolutely no intellectual ground to stand on, resorting to sweeping generalizations & insults is all you have.
    Because ‘rational & reasonable’, you ain’t.

  6. buckeyenonbeliever says:

    So many of the leaders of the christian right are the first to condemn, and admonish islamist fundamentalists for indoctrinating their innocent, naive children to the evil that is islam in their schools; yet these same people cannot see the hypocrisy of the doing the EXACT same thing in American schools. Granted, this program is an after school program currently and is not mandatory; but who here does not think this will be required curriculum in certain states and districts in the very near future?

    Warrioress complains yet again about christianity not being respected here, but why should ANY religion be respected when it condones murder and genocide? That is what these kids are being taught, no? Do not give me the bullshit about divine command and following god’s orders warrioress, because that is what islam does. Are you and your ilk no better than islam warrioress? Surely, you can do better? As has been said already, respect is earned not given. And religion has rightfully earned the scorn, ridicule, and distaste it currently is receiving.

  7. Chrish says:

    “You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

    Aaaaaaaand you can catch WAY more flies with bullshit than either honey or vinegar. Unless of course it’s a fruit fly…which in that case either honey or vinegar work equally well.
    This is pure common sense.
    Rational and reasonable; thus it may be difficult to really wrap one’s mind around.
    Try.

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